# YAPC - Yet another PHP Community ? Or is it ...

Published: 2005-11-28

<p>I'll start this of by saying I enjoy <a href="http://www.php.net">PHP</a>, for no particular reason, but a few years into the past I looked at some tutorials, and generaly started working with it, having fun and money with it, and it (the last IT in this sentence, I hope :) ) grew on me. and I don't think it's perfection encarnated (not close), but I don't think it's (damn) inferiour to other interpreted programming languages, it's just .. different. Also, my opinion is, most of the time, a humble one, when it's not ... I'll put up a big red sign ;) .So, let's call this a disclamer, and move on with things :D</p>
<p>During my <a href="/blog/2005/10/14/im-off-to-eurooscon-i-got-to-go-on-p">EuroOscon</a>,  I was witness to two of the biggest differences between <a href="http://www.perl.org">Perl</a> and <a href="http://www.php.net">PHP</a>, the sense of community and the general awe factor (symbolized in Perl-God Larry Wall and the amazing <a href="http://damian.conway.org">Damian Conway</a>) that Perl has ... and PHP clearly doesn't. Perl members exude pride in it, Larry's State of the Onion talk draw crowds, and Damian is just bloody brilliant :) . The PHP crowd however, is far more shy, people gave me that "oh dear" look when I said I was a PHP user ,the man who invented it, <a href="http://lerdorf.com/">Rasmus Lerdorf</a>, while being apparently open, strikes you as someone who works best alone, unlike Larry Wall, who I caught attending and having a good time in a good deal of presentations, and as for the majority (ok, all) of the PHP presentations they lacked ... well .. a lot of things, they weren't very interesting to tell you the truth.</p>
<p>So what's the point of all of this? Well, the biggest point is that PHP has a bit of distance to go, especially on the human point of view, at least at a "user" level, exacly the level where most of us lie :) . At a depper (developer) level, I believe things are better, since the language is alive and kicking, so is there a problem that needs fixing? Well, probably not, but things could improve :) , for one, altough I do appreciate the effort that PHP (ok, <a href="http://www.zend.com/">zend</a> has been doing in bringing PHP to the <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/08/zend_php_development/">Enterprise </a> (with <a href="http://www.orafaq.com/faqphp.htm">Oracle</a>, for instance) but what about grass-roots? Well, I <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+group&btnG=Google+Search">googled</a> it and there are some organized attempts, <a href="http://www.phpusergroups.org/">here</a> and <a href="http://www.phpcommunity.org/">there</a>, but in comparison, <a href="http://www.pm.org">this</a> is just a whole different game (take Portuguese representation for one) .</p>
<p>So what's there to do? Well, we're not saving the world or anything, but I've been entertaning the notion that change starts small, and o a very small level, I've been entertaining the thought that MAYBE some of you feel the same, and that we could actually do something about it :) . Think I'm crazy or just plain blind? Say so on the comment box :), I dare you ;).</p>
